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Q&A Interview with BACKSTROM Star Rainn Wilson

Mike Vicic - January 22, 2015

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TV Tango recently participated in a conference call with BACKSTROM star Rainn Wilson, who dished details about his character Everett Backstrom, teased the mystery of Backstrom's relationship with Valentine, and even touched on the topic of a BONES/BACKSTROM crossover episode (which he doesn't think would happen). For complete details, read the entire Q&A below, which we edited from the original transcript.
 

BACKSTROM premieres tonight (Thursday, January 22, 2015) at 9pm ET/PT on FOX.



 

 

 

Based on the series of books by renowned Swedish criminologist and novelist Leif G.W. Persson, BACKSTROM is a one-hour series that follows Everett Backstrom (Rainn Wilson), an offensive and irascible detective, as he leads Portland's Serious Crime Unit, while trying to change his own self-destructive behavior. His team includes: Detective Nicole Gravely (Genevieve Angelson), his second in command, who is tasked with not only keeping the unit together in the face of Backstrom's behavior but ensuring that his unorthodox investigatory methods hold up in court; Sgt. Peter Niedermayer (Kristoffer Polaha), the unit's Forensics Liaison; the devoutly religious John Almond (Dennis Haysbert), who believes that Backstrom's hunches are simple luck; Officer Frank Moto (Page Kennedy), who proves his value by suppressing the perpetrators and swiftly maneuvering around hostile conditions; civilian Nadia Paquet (Beatrice Rosen), a French immigrant, who supports the detectives with her profound ability to navigate cyberspace; and Gregory Valentine (Thomas Dekker), an ex-hustler turned entrepreneurial crook, who is Backstrom's tenant, decorator and underworld connection. Robert Forster recurs as Backstrom's father, Sheriff Blue Backstrom; Sarah Chalke guest stars as Backstrom's fiancee; and Eddie McClintock plays Lt. Sam D'Agostino, a neighborhood bully, who grew up with Backstrom.


Photo Credit: Liane Hentscher/FOX

Question: How do the series and your character fit in with the cultural landscape across the United States right now, with all the current societal concerns of racist police officers or tampering with evidence?

Rainn Wilson: Wait a minute, you might be describing a television show that's actually relevant to modern society? Outrageous. Yes, there's relevance there. There are a lot of crooked cops -- and I don't think there's near as many as there used to be -- and there are a lot of racist cops. But once you get to know Backstrom, you'll see that it's really not racism like you think of it.

 

He hates himself more than anyone. So he's racist against whites and blacks and any other race; and he is sexist against men as he is sexist against women. He just is an all purpose hater.

Question: What do you consider Backstrom's best quality and what would you consider his worst quality?

Rainn Wilson: I think that Backstrom's best quality is sensitivity. I think that anyone who is outwardly so insensitive -- that has to come from somewhere, and it comes from a history of abuse, abandonment and neglect that he has gone through. Not trying to get all psychobabble on you, but he truly is a deeply, deeply sensitive person. He's just been twisted and worked so much that it comes out sideways.

What's his worst quality? He's selfish and puts himself first

Question: Is there any specific person or character, besides the character in the books, from whom you took inspiration in developing Backstrom?

Rainn Wilson: I would say the only inspiration that I had is growing up watching COLUMBO and watching THE ROCKFORD FILES and being really excited about the kind of old school nature of the show. There's nothing slick about this show. Well, I have a few little montages here and there, but it really is old school; it's kind of cut from the '70s kind of detective show -- a quirky character that is not a leading man and is struggling to get by in the world. He's kind of an anti-hero, with some really major flaws, who happens to be pretty brilliant at solving crimes. So that was my main inspiration.

Other than that, it was really figuring out who this guy was and doing the rich, detailed acting work. I'm not saying that I was very good at it. I tried to do the rich, detailed acting work that was exploring who this guy is, how he sees the world, how he sees the world through his particular work lens and his choices accordingly. Where does that come from? What's it like to really be in his shoes and see the world the way he does? There's a lot of pain there, but there's also a lot of humor.

Question: How are you the same as Everett? Obviously, not physically...

Rainn Wilson: Well, I am physically [the same]. That is true. I'd certainly be slovenly. I certainly have a predilection towards being addictive compulsive, and what else? I definitely can be super insensitive as a person. That's something I've always struggled with. You can just ask my wife. I think that would be a great question for my wife, actually. Could you ask my wife, please, in what way I might be the same as Everett Backstrom? .

Question: If you were interviewing Everett, what would you ask him?

Rainn Wilson: I guess I would ask him about his super power -- how does seeing the very worst in humans allow him to see so deeply into the criminal mind. Maybe not even the criminal mind, maybe it's the criminal heart and how that criminal element must be feeling.

Question: Do you have favorite line of Backstrom's?

Rainn Wilson: Do I have a favorite line? I like to say I'm a big fan of one they keep using on all those promos that they're running over and over, "We're looking for lesbians in a shed." That always makes me laugh for some reason. Let me think about that. I don't have lines off the top of my head, really good Backstrom lines. I'm sure there are plenty. I wish Hart Hanson were one the phone; he can think up a thousand of them.



Photo Credit: Liane Hentscher/FOX

Question: Did you make any changes to the character when the show moved from its initial development at CBS to production at FOX?

Rainn Wilson: We always knew it was going to be very tricky at CBS. CBS is not really known for its unlikeable characters; it really is known for its ensemble procedurals, where characters are not as important. This is a show all about character; everyone in the ensemble has a very strong point of view and is very quirky in their own way.

So the adjustment really was going, "Goodie! Yippee! We're on FOX! Now we can do something a lot more interesting, and take a lot more risks." It's still network television -- it's not like a show that we could do if we were on FX or AMC -- but for network television I think we're trying to push the envelope in some really interesting ways. We have some very tragic episodes and we have some really comic episodes, too, but Hart Hanson walks that tightrope in his writing very well.

Question: How did it feel for you now to step in to playing this new character, a very different one than you had played for nine seasons on THE OFFICE?

Rainn Wilson: Doing another TV show was kind of the last thing I wanted to do right away after THE OFFICE, after working so hard and for so long on that character. But when I read the character of Backstrom it was kind of like, "Oh, darn it! This is too good. This is too rich. It's too interesting," and it just drew me in incredibly. I couldn't say no. It's such a rich, multi-faceted character that I had to take it -- and they don't come along very often, especially for weird looking middle-aged character guys like myself. So, to get a role this interesting for an actor such as myself was just a godsend, and Hart Hanson is an incredible writer who can balance the drama and the humor, the absurdity at the same time so effortlessly so it all fits in into one tone.

Question: Can you talk a little bit about the differences in preparation between the 60-minute procedural where you're the lead versus the 30-minute sitcom with more episodes?

Rainn Wilson: Yes, in the 30-minute sitcom, no preparation, so it's a huge difference. THE OFFICE was usually short scenes, largely improvised -- if you messed up your lines it's okay. And then we made sure that we always got it as scripted at least once, but it was much more freewheeling and it was more about finding the comedy in the moment. Yes, there were through lines in the episodes, but it was just being open and spontaneous to find those little gems.

In BACKSTROM there is a lot of drama in the show, and there's a lot of through lines. you have to be very aware what's going on scene to scene, and I've never had to do as much preparation as I have in BACKSTROM. I've never worked as hard in my life -- 7 to 8 pages of dialogue a day, usually 13 to 14 hour shoot days and it's not like he's just passive in the scenes. He's very active -- driving scenes and digging and exploring and emoting and hitting the jokes. So you have to be really, really on at the same time. it was really night and day.


Valentine (Thomas Dekker) with Backstrom.
Photo Credit: Liane Hentscher/FOX

Question: Do we find out more about the relationship between Backstrom and Valentine, the kid living with him?

Rainn Wilson: Yes, there's definitely something going on there. There is some juicy connection between those two -- between Thomas Dekker's character, Valentine, and Backstrom. You will definitely find that out. That's one of the great things about what Hart has done on this show is you go on a wonderful little story arc for the first 13 episodes. You get to know Backstrom's father, you get to know his ex-fiancée, and these kind of mysteries of who he is and why he is the way he is are revealed. And that [the Backstrom-Valentine connection] is one of the interesting mysteries of it.

Question: Without divulging the actual mystery, can you talk a little bit more about Backstrom's relationship with Valentine as well as your chemistry with Thomas Dekker?

Rainn Wilson: So this really became the central relationship of the show, Backstrom's relationship with his roommate/lodger/fence/underworld connection/mysterious connection to Backstrom in some strange way that more will be revealed. And it was one of those cases where Thomas Dekker is truly one of the very best actors I have ever worked with in my life. He's astonishingly good. He's so quick and he can go from high comedy to deep tragedy on the drop of a dime and he's just a fascinating person and he creates fascinating characters. And so it just was this rich world of this relationship between the two of them. We always knew that it was there, but it just really blossomed and grew over the episodes. So you'll see more and more of Valentine as this series goes along.

Do you remember Angel from THE ROCKFORD FILES? He [Jim Rockford] always had this like kind of weaselly guy that was really funny that was always given choice tidbits of information. You were always really excited when you saw Angel on the screen because you knew it was going to be really interesting. That's kind of the role that he [Valentine] originally was meant to be, and then he just became much, much more than that as we went along. I can't say enough good things. I can't wait to talk again to you after the mystery is revealed, and then we can really kind of talk deeper about that relationship.

Question: Who plays Backstrom's father?

Rainn Wilson: Robert Forster is going to play his father in about three episodes, and it was fantastic working with him. I'm just such a huge fan of his. He did a great job.


Backstrom with Det. Sgt. Almond (Dennis Haysbert).
Photo Credit: Liane Hentscher/FOX

Question: What are three reasons people should tune in to the show?

Rainn Wilson: One, they get to see me almost naked -- a lot! Two, I think I've rarely seen a network show that balances humor and the dark edge of the underbelly of the human condition so nicely. And, three, what else can I tell you about three? Every episode is surprising in some way that you haven't seen before. So there is a nice surprising aspect. Four, which you can actually substitute for one, would be it's a terrific ensemble of actors. Dennis Haysbert and Page Kennedy and Kris Polaha are really interesting, interesting actors that bring a ton to their characters.

Question: Have you filmed all of the episodes for this season yet, or are you still working on them?

Rainn Wilson: We finished 13 episodes and we were done by early November.

Question: Was there any discussion of maybe doing a crossover type episode with BONES, since this show comes from Hart Hanson, the mind behind BONES?

Rainn Wilson: You know, I highly doubt that that would ever happen. I think that they inhabit such different worlds. BONES is much more silly than BACKSTROM. Theme-wise, it's much broader and I don't see how the characters would jive. I don't see how they would get along in the same world, but maybe so, maybe there will be such tremendous clamor for that. I mean BONES fans are really loyal and Hart Hanson fans are super, super loyal so that would be interesting to see.